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Starting July 15, we will be implementing a 5 cent fee for ORG domains grace deleted in the first 5 days. The reason is that the central registry for ORG domains has implemented a new excess deletion fee:

http://www.pir.org/Publications/eNewsletter.aspx

The fee will not be charged to accounts that just delete a few ORG domains due to typos. It will only be charged to accounts that register and delete many ORG domains. Further details on how the fee will be charged will be coming soon.

Also, we are considering charging a 5 cent fee for all grace deletions, not just ORG. The reason is that some accounts are registering and deleting hundreds (or thousands) of domains, and it is placing a high load on our servers. Once again, accounts that just delete a few domains once in a while would not be charged this fee.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

I wouldn't mind the fee. I believe if I register 1000 names to taste I'll sure keep some of them that in time will make enough money to cover the loss.

Recently it's been a hot subject and I'm afraid if Dynadot doesn't do this it will suffer later and I would hate to lose their services. I keep all my names with them and I'll using their services even if the fee is introduced.

I think I know who is upset with this. The people that register 1000 names or more then drop them and then register them again. And over and over again. That way they keep the names for free and also keep the money from ppc.

Agreed totally but at the sametime "free" generally costs someone somewhere. At the start of all this we suggested that that there be 5 automatically granted deletions a month PLUS upto 10% of all domains retained after the grace period.

This gives everyone fair protection against mistakes and still gives the tasters a fair look in. The fact that most registrars give no free grace period says a lot in itself.

It is also interesting that ICANN is looking at the subject now with what appears to be a reduction to a 48hr grace period as the ultimate solution and/or a mandatory fee.

To be reasonable,
Based on this Grace period people could make a risk-free business and Dynadot can take advantage of these people's business and yes I know 5 cents isn't much but it takes away the beautiful word and sense of "FREE"

My vote goes to FREE if that matters and I believe the benefit Dynadot receives from these 5 cents doesn't worth losing the incentive and buzz the word "FREE" makes and finally it ends up with a general negative effect.

Do you know any more registers, that provide domains testing for free?


[This post has been edited by fix on Jul 16, 2007 11:39am.]

theres not that many domain hosts / providers , that even offer a grace deletion ?? would be a shame to loose the service , so even a small fee , would be ok , in my eyes ?

DynaDot staff did give feedback on page 2 about the comments posted to date. Exact quote was.........

Thank you everyone for the feedback so far. Just a reminder, let's keep to the topic, and not make personal attacks.

Perhaps it would help to explain why we are proposing a deletion fee. The deletion activity is starting to dwarf the regular registration activity. It is causing a heavy strain to our systems. Soon we will be making major structural changes to our databases and codebase, mostly because of the surge of deletion activity. That costs time and money.

A question to those that delete a lot: what effect would a small deletion fee have on your business? Just curious. If 5 cents is too much, what would a fair fee be?

Also, can you think of an alternative method that is better for you than a deletion fee.

Finally, we appreciate the business all of you have brought to us, through word of mouth. We are not trying to drive any customers away. Hopefully we can find a solution that everyone is happy with.

Let's hear what the Admin has to say based on the comments.

Most of the other registrars with domain tasting charge less than $ 6.99 for their registration but Dynadot charges $ 7.99, I am in no way finding fault.

The same can be applied here, others are charging 25 cents or xx cents. But Dynadot doesn't charge anything. It will increase customers and get more business.

Exactly

I'm operating a pair of dedicated servers and have (in total) less than two dozen domains, most of them names of individual wikis in a small wiki-farm. None of them carry advertising.

I've used the deletion feature once (typo: "encycropedia") and would be quite content to pay DynaDot the five cents if they are willing to forgive me this blunder.

Heck, if it helps to even slightly discourage the folks who register a thousand domains to the same server and put one page of useless advertising on each? It'd be a bargain at twice the price.

Some of us aren't here to abuse the system, and the endless registrations of massive numbers of domains for generic "what you need, when you need it" PPC spam is getting annoying. It certainly serves no beneficial purpose to the Internet community as a whole, but it ties up massive quantities of domain names that otherwise could host legitimately useful content.

Why should I, as registrant of a non-commercial dot.org site with no ads and no revenue, subsidise resources for the domain tasters?

"The reason is that some accounts are registering and deleting hundreds (or thousands) of domains, and it is placing a high load on our servers." Mr Dynadot 2007

Tell you what I think, you should put some of the profit that you get from selling domains to us into some extra RAM (That's Random Access Memory), seriously, it's cheap as chips (Boom cha!) these days I'm sure your host won't mind. If you can afford to be a registrar, you can afford a decent setup ! Cluster your servers have a server dedicated to deletes as it seems if you do charge for them a few people might be leaving dynadot.